I knew this guy who left in the early 80's because he didn't accept the 607 chronology ,he didn't try to cause a problem ,he went about his business quietly .Problem was that his employer was JW and his wife was a JW too. Man ,did they percecute him like a dog? Name calling ,emotional blackmailing ,finally one extra active CO got his employer to sack him because his was an apostate .This place wasn't easy to find another job .I still remember him .All that time I thought he was a nasty apostate .These bastards I'll never forget for telling us lies ...
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Practical Problems Arising From Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses - not on jw.org
by InterestedOne inwhat practical problems arise from leaving jehovah's witnesses?
this question was inspired by a poster whose jw friend refused to be a reference for an apartment.
i wonder if most jw's know deep down that they need to maintain some ties with non-jw's in case they find themselves either deciding to leave or ostracized for some reason..
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YEARBOOK 2013 :New Video :Dedicated to Pterist & Irondork
by raymond frantz inwhat the letter really means.
the letter addressed to all jws in the new yearbook 2013 would make george orwell proud .their closing words " we love you very much" shows with what psycopaths we have to deal with .especially dedicated to pterist and irondork that guided me to the right direction .please like and subscribe ,the more you do the more likely the video to go higher on youtube'slist .my last video reached 33 countries .
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The letter addressed to all JWs in the New Yearbook 2013 would make George Orwell proud .Their closing words " We love you very much" shows with what psycopaths we have to deal with .Especially dedicated to Pterist and irondork that guided me to the right direction .Please like and subscribe ,the more you do the more likely the video to go higher on YOUTUBE'Slist .My last video reached 33 countries
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He is planning to become a JW ,his cousin is one and he wrote a letter to her some years ago to congratulate her ,because JW get to fill their churches unlike to Catholics .if he only knew...
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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Sorry I missed Cedar's POST a month ago ,I'll have a read now ,many thanks
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First Recorded "Conscious Class" Talk in the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inthe governing body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .use your talks to promote christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .use material from publications that promote christian freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .use your talks to awake your brothers .
the following talk uses non of the usual watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the governing body chooses to avoid .. whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to awake your brothers and sisters .this talk was given few days ago at the thursday meeting ,based on proverbs 3:5.sorry for the accent ,english is not my mother language.. talk at the kingdom hall.
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speargrass55, I think at least 2 of the elders in my congragation have fully AWAKEKENED ,I got smiles of approval from both when I got of the platform ,that says a lot
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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I never read a letter from the governing body indirectly blaming the elders for lording over at the Kingdom Halls .I know many elders do that ,but who authorized them ?Was it not the GB that few months ago through their elders school told them to be ruthless punishing anything and anyone that poses a threat to the congragation.What a bunch of twisted cowards ! They can't stand up for anything ,they even pretend that they don't exist telling the world that they are a nothing more than a theological arrangement ,a figment of our collective imagination.I never thought a figment of imagination would have this kind of control over so many people
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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While elders are authorised to counsel and even discipline, they do not seek to dominate or to control the life or faith of others.
Authorised by whom??????????
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First Recorded "Conscious Class" Talk in the Kingdom Hall
by raymond frantz inthe governing body is not all powerful and all present ,we are not totally powerless .use your talks to promote christian freedom and tear down their propaganda .use material from publications that promote christian freedom and scriptures that they willingly avoid .use your talks to awake your brothers .
the following talk uses non of the usual watchtower propaganda and uses scriptures the governing body chooses to avoid .. whether you are an elder ,a ministerial servant ,or just a publisher use your items and your talks at the meeting to awake your brothers and sisters .this talk was given few days ago at the thursday meeting ,based on proverbs 3:5.sorry for the accent ,english is not my mother language.. talk at the kingdom hall.
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problemaddict ,as the governing body says ,they are only a govering body when they get together ,I'm also Raymond Frantz when I get on the platform when I step down I'm somebody else
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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- They started blaming others ,that means that we have an impact and they are scared
- They blame local elders for their policies???
- They recognise the right for free will . HA,HA,HA,HA!!!!!
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Hot of the Press!!! YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
by raymond frantz inyearbook 2013 :letter from the governing body.
dear brothers and sisters :our heavenly father,jehovah, is the personification of love.hence the bible states :"god is love".
(1 john 4:8) even though jehovah is almighty ,his word never says ,"god is power" or , "god is might".he bases his rule primarily on love.how this attracts us to him!.
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YEARBOOK 2013 :Letter from the Governing Body
Dear brothers and sisters :Our Heavenly Father,Jehovah, is the personification of love.Hence the Bible states :"God is love".(1 John 4:8) Even though Jehovah is Almighty ,His Word never says ,"God is power" or , "God is might".He bases his rule primarily on love.How this attracts us to him!
Happily, Jehovah does not force us to serve him. He is not a dictator. He wants us to serve him out of love from the heart.When we do this , we show that we want his rulership because we believe that the way he rules is right and loving.This has been evident from the beginning of human history.
Rather than compel Adam and Eve to obey him,Jehovah gave him the opportunity to make their own choice. If they had really loved Jehovah and appreciated what he had done for them ,they would have resisted Satan's efforts to cause them to rebel .
Later on ,Moses said in his parting speech to the nation of Israel:" See, I do put before you today life and good,and death and bad".(Deut.30:15)The people had the freedom to decide how they wanted to live.Similarly,Joshua said to the Israelites:" If it is bad in your eyes to serve Jehovah,choose for yourselves today whom you will serve." In reply , the people answered Joshua:"It is unthinkable,on our part, to leave Jehovah".(Josh.24:15,16)That is how we feel today as well.Because we love Jehovah, it is "unthinkable" for us to leave him.
Within the Christian congragation, we clearly understand the matter of free will. While elders are authorised to counsel and even discipline, they do not seek to dominate or to control the life or faith of others. The apostle Paul wrote :"Not that we are the masters over your faith ,but we are fellow workers for your joy,for it is by your faith you are standing ".-2 Cor. 1:24.
How satisfying it is to do something because we want to do it instead of being forced to do it ! Jehovah invites us to do what is good out of love.The importance of that is seen in Paul's inspired words:"If I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body, that I my boast, but do not have love,I'm not profited at all".1 Cor. 13:3.
What joy it brings to Jehovah- what praise- to see millions of our brothers and sisters serving him because they love him with all their heart!
Jehovah in turn ,dearly loves all his servants, including all you children and teenagers who show that you love Jehovah rather than the world and the self-gratification it offers.Be assured ,too, that we love you dearly.-Luke 12:42.43.
Out of love for Jehovah ,last year you brothers ,sisters,and young people spent 1,748,697,447 hours proclaiming the good news. Prompted by love,7,782,346 shared in the field ministry worldwide.We rejoice in the fact that 268,777 new ones, among them many young ones, sumbolized their dedication to Jehovah through water baptism .This means that 5,168 were baptized on average every weekend.How this touches our heart!
In this time of the end.God's people have to cope with many problems,chalenges,persecution,sickness,and some have to contend with old age.But we are determined never to "shrink back" or to "give up".We love you all very much.-Heb.10:39;2 Cor.4:16.
Your brothers ,
Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses
* Highlighted parts are mine